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so let's be controversial again! RELIGION \o/ 
11th-May-2010 01:18 am

OK first just let me say that English is not my main language, and I am not even that good with words in the first place. So if you get offended by something, try to think twice and ask yourself if maybe you are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. And if you leave a comment, be nice to eachother! I'm very lucky with you guys, and how nice you are when you comment here. Almost never any trolling ^__^

I watched The Invention of Lying tonight. It is a comedy, and a funny one, but I was really thinking about how good it was at showing religion for what it is. It showed a little bit of why we have religion in the first place, with the good sides, and how hard it is to avoid the bad sides.

I am atheist. While I don't exclude something more spiritual, I really doubt it. And I really think religions are all something made up or imagined by people. It is just too easy to be suspicious of something that has changed so much throughout history, depending on what people had a say in the matter. Let me use Christianity as an example as it is what I know the most about. The Bible was written by a bunch of dudes. A bunch of them decided what went into it, and what did not make the cut. Some of the main stories in there are also suspiciously (to say the least) similiar to other mythology from the same region, predating Christianity by a good bit. And even after they finished it, it has been changed right? Even a translation is a pretty big transformation when you consider this is supposed to be the written laws of our lives. Think about all the different "truths" that have been presented as the word of God, from medieval Catholic church to Hitler to that original Mormon. No way, man. This is all people and their ideas.

And then when you look at the ideas... We all laugh at the ridiculous science fiction mythology of that Scientology guy, but people accept the stories of Christianity without thinking about it because we've been so familiar with it since we were little kids. Jesus walked on water? Sure, everyone knows that :P That's not ridiculous at all. Oh and what about the Father who has a Son who is also at the same time the Father (...). Or the virgin birth. I know a lot of this is described as "miracles", but once you go there then you are kind of in the same category as the Scientology alien stories for me. I'm pretty sure that if you look at the people with the most education, you will find they are a lot less religious. Once people have more knowledge of how the world works it becomes harder to convince them that thunder and lighting is actually a hammer god in the clouds, or that boys kissing boys is something dangerous.

Please don't get me wrong; I am not dismissing those of you who are religious as uneducated or stupid. There are many people in this world who are more intelligent than me and who are also religious. But it is something that makes me wonder.

And it's hardly harmless either you know? There is so much shit going on in the name of religion, so much hate and conflict. I know there are many good things going on too, but do we really need that to be nice to eachother?

(Sorry again for the awkward writing. I am not good with words!)
29th-May-2010 06:29 pm (UTC) - More than understood
I am Catholic because I grew up in the religious line. But someone said: "Religion is the opium of the people". I too have been through all that shit for the boys, etc, etc. But as I got older and I was watching and the world, I was convinced that my feelings were more important than what people say or believe. There are many lie abandoned in this world turning. Markus, folks. Argentina In my country we have suffered and continue to fight for people interpret us beyond religion. But we explain the priests who abuse children? and is much longer than the thing ... Carlos Raúl Serrano. carlosbche@hotmail.com
1st-Jun-2010 06:16 am (UTC)
All I can really say on the matter is that I've struggled with my faith, being that I'm a Christian, due in large to the issues you bring up. A lot of things haven't made sense to me the more I've studied them. But there are still those times when something falls upon me spiritually, where things just click and I really don't know how else to explain it other than God working in my life/through me. I have seen how God has intervened in my life to bring about things that by all accounts should have been impossible. I guess like answering prayers and things like that. And then I think sometimes about all the complexities of everything that exists and how man can't even begin to explain so many things. It all just seems too perfect to have come about of its own accord--too many coincidences and pure luck to have just happened all on its own. It had to have been the inspiration of a God or higher being. And then I also think about how frail and falty mankind can be. We can misinterpret so much. Maybe God does exist, but we've written about certain things with wrong understandings. And maybe a lot throughout history have acted on those misunderstandings (EX: fighting "religious" wars--that does seem to contradict Jesus' message). From my own experiences being a Christian, I have seen a lot of Christians act in ways not at all Christlike, which is more than sad.

I will address the "miracles" you mention. Yes, some of those do seem quite preposterous. But if God really is the most powerful, all knowing, ever present being he's described as being, then I suppose nothing is really beyond his abilities--even being able to defy the laws of science.

Still, I guess I'm writing just to say I can understand your concerns. I've had some of the same.

Bless you--be it through God or good will. :)
27th-Dec-2010 03:57 am (UTC) - Free Will
What this movie seemed to overlook is one important part of our Intelligent Design: Free Will. There is both the truth and the brutal truth. The character's dialogue in this movie seemed to exploit the truth.
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